Consonent Clusters at the End of Words Rob Zook Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:33:26 -0600 We have discussed the consonent clusters at the beginning of words pretty thoroughly, and that leaves the one at the end of words. The examples we have again are: rtc dth wl kht tc ct rn rc rk It seems like an opposite rule in effect here for the ending clusters: r and stops and r and fricatives. Also rtc and tc ct imply that one can use these as well. So I would suggest that one can have: [any tap]+[any stop]: rp rb rt rd rk rg rq another: [any tap]+[any fricative]: rf rv rs rz rc rj rx rh and any of the normal [stop]+[fricative] combinations following Sauls voicing rule: pf ps pc px ph bv bz bj tf (ts) (tc) tx th dv dz (dj) kf (ks) kc kx kh gv gz gj qf qs qc qx qh [fricative]+[stop] at the end of words, these would also need to follow Sauls voicing rule, I think: fp sp cp xp hp vb zb jb ft st ct xt ht vd zd jd fk sk ck xk hk vg zg jg fq sq cq xq hq Finnally, we have , , and . only makes sense to me as a final consonent if was a dental fricative instead of the aspriated alveolar stop it would normally represent. Nor do any other combinations of voiced and voiceless stops of the same or similar area of articulation seem to work: pb bp kg gk kq qk td Perhaps, these clusters exist but at the end of the word, in the form of voiced stop + voiceless stop if the final stop mutates into it's voiceless fricative? In which case we could have: bf dth! gch* th! the voiceless dental fricative (like in English "thin") ch* the voiceless alveolar fricative (like the in the German "ich") but I don't think the voiceless stop + voiced fricative could work pv tdh! kgh* dh! the voiced dental fricative (like in English "the") gh* the voiced aveolar fricative (like the in tlhIngan Hol "ghob") Unfortunately, this does not seem quite consisant either, because p -> f and k -> ch does not have the same relationship as t -> th. So maybe one should transcribe kai'idth, as kai'id'th instead. appears in k'wawl, and in this case the aw could be some kind of vowel dipthong maybe /ao/? If not, perhaps you can have an [approximate]+[lateral] at the end of a word: yl wl. Or if /w/ does indeed represent a voiced bilabial fricative as Saul suggests it could mean you can have [fricative]+[labial] at the end of a word: fl vl sl zl cl jl xl hl. Did I understand you aright Saul? In your last message you suggested /w/ was also a fricative. Since /wh/ is already the voiceless, that would seem to make /w/ voiced. Frankly, I'd rather see a voiced approximate with a voiceless allophone. In any case that brings us to which could mean [aspirated stop]+ [stop] are ok at the end of a word. Pronounced that way it make the combination just as pronouncable as k't. Since we only know of three aspirated stops that would give us: khp khb kht khd khk khg khq th thb tht thd thk thg thq dh dhb dht dhd dhk dhg dhq I kind of like these simply because of their exoticness. That could give us words like qyoodhk or kakhg which look nice and tricky to pronounce ;-) To summarize, I propose the following for consonent clusters at the end of a word: [any tap]+[any stop] [any tap]+[any fricative] [stop]+[fricative] [fricative]+[stop] [approximate]+[lateral] [aspirated stop]+[stop] Rob Z. -------------------------------------------------------- Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education. -- Bertrand Russell