Gerunds and Entities Saul Epstein Sun, 9 Nov 1997 19:18:03 -0600 I was thinking the other day that it might give us some additional momentum if we had a name, like tlhingan Hol (forgive my spelling) has in the Klingon Language Institute. (I also realize that the KLI is much more than a name, but you've got to start somewhere.) Rather than just calling this effort the Vulcan Language Institute, as some have, I thought referring to it as the Vulcan Academy Linguistics Department might be a worthwhile conceit. This inevitably led me to try to come up with a way to say "Linguistics Department" in Vulcan. "Linguistics" proved to be relatively easy. We have two words prala speak khu watch from which a compound pralakhu "speech-observe" or "speech-study" can be made. This would, I think, describe what linguists do. To make an "entity" or a noun from this "action/state" probably requires making it a gerund though. Currently, the gerund suffix is "-at" which, unfortunately, is also the genitive or possessive suffix. So I wonder now if anyone would mind if we change the gerund suffix to "-te." Doing so would have the side benefit of partly translating the government bodies from _Spock's_World_. If we do this, "linguistics" might be pralakhute and other fields of study could be similarly named. One bit of confusion, which I see now should probably have been asked of the Zvelebils, regards exactly the role of explicit gerunds in a language which doesn't seem to mark parts of speech except through the arrangement of words into sentences. In other words, I can't tell if a "verb" like "khu" cannot act as a noun without being marked with the gerund suffix. I can't tell if "nouns" cannot go the other direction. Anyway, I couldn't find in the lexicon a word that would do for "department" or "division" or "that which is a distinct part of something larger." There are plenty of words dealing with separation in a more severe sense -- like "outcaste" -- but that's not what I'm after. So we'll just have to make something up, like... /ngox/. So "linguistics department could be pralakhute ngox How does that strike you? -- from Saul Epstein liberty*uit,net www,johnco,cc,ks,us/~sepstein "Surak ow'phaaper thes'hi thes'tca'; thes'phaadjar thes'hi suraketca'." -- K'dvarin Urswhl'at