Re: Phonomological Analysis of Vulcan Utterances Saul Epstein Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:08:05 -0600 From: Rob Zook Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 9:03 PM > I'm pretty sure that all the ones with the letters "oy" > probably should be spelled "oi", given that's the way that > "kroykah" sounded in _Amok Time_. We should probably do the > same with any "y" combination. Except for a few specific > instances the rest of the "y" occurances below probably act as > a consonent. is, ironically enough, the one exception I would grant to this. Because the reduplicated form of is , I suggest that it should be rather than . This lets the syllable structure be kro-y', so that kro is the reduplicated syllable. But everywhere else I think your interpretations work. > The one that really bugs me is what the heck should "kh" sound > like? An aspirated "k" or a fricative "k"? My personal > preference is the fricative. I think in most cases it is the fricative (or ) -- though I do think Vulcan probably allows stop-/h/ consonant clusters... > One more thing which suggests itself - the excessive use of "h" > with a vowel probably indicates a short vowel rather than an > extra breathy syllable. This seems to appear in words from > the ST Novels more than anywhere else. Yes. Except "ah" tends not to be used to represent a short a, and there are a number of those. I've been turning them into s, to boost their frequency if nothing else. But it would help to no what the "real" difference is between and . > I have extracted a few words from the dictionary which will > prove troublesome to the analysis program, and a suggested > alterate spelling: > > Dictionary Version Some guesses > ------------------ ------------- [snip] > p'pil'lay p'pil'la'ai? Mmm. Probably just p'pil'lai. > shroy shroi? or croi > Comments?/Questions? Looks good. -- from Saul Epstein liberty uit net www johnco cc ks us sepstein "Surak ow'phaaper the'shi the'stca'; the'sphaadjar the'shi suraketca'." -- K'dvarin Urswhl'at