Re: The Next Step (was Vulcan in Vulcan)
Saul Epstein 
Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:50:48 -0500

At 06:17 PM 10/22/97 -0500, Rob wrote:

>At 04:03 PM 10/22/97 -0500, Saul wrote:
>
>>the sounds in question. That is, the <ey> in "hey" is not the 
>>same as the /ee/. It's more like a diphthong /eeii/. Or the sequence /eey/.
>
>Would /ee/ sound anything like the "e" in English "met"?

It's just above it. /e/ is the <e> in "met." /ee/ is higher in the mouth and
slightly further forward. And native English speakers will have a great deal
of trouble hearing the difference. Well, most American dialects... Let's
see, it's very much like the Australian or South-African vowel in "there."
Oii wuudn gau auva thee, if oii wa yuu.

>>There I go again. "Deictic" is an adjectival form of "deixis," 
>>a grammatical term referring to the ways a language divides up 
>>time and space relative to the speaker.
>
>Wow. That seems pretty freaky to me actually. I had know idea
>it was that limited. I just called my time affixes deixis
>because it kind of "sounded" appropriate.

Well, I know the word refers at least to that. It could mean more.

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